A New Day's 180l jungle

Discussion in 'Planted Tanks' started by A new day, Jul 11, 2019.

  1. Whoknows

    Whoknows Comp Coordinator

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2018
    Messages:
    2,258
    Likes Received:
    1,585
    Location:
    JHB South
    Thanks :thumbup:
     
    A new day likes this.
  2. Guest




  3. OP
    A new day

    A new day Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2019
    Messages:
    5,597
    Likes Received:
    4,417
    Location:
    Cape Town
    My very first fish were the 4 platies and they do breed like rabbits. I’ve given away more than 20 already.
    I do like them (and the son loves them, he’ll never forgive me if I let them go) but not sure that I’d get them again if I have to do it all over. Not compatible with dwarf shrimp etc.

    The other thing I feel quite strongly about is that they need a 3foot plus tank which is not the general consensus out there. I used to have them in the 2 foot/ 65L which was fine when they were juvies. But they get bigger than people realise (especially the females), they’re active and have quite the bioload, plus they breed!! In a 2 foot they just look like caged tigers to me.

    The 180L is a 1m tank and that’s about right for them...
     
    HugBug likes this.
  4. HugBug

    HugBug

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2020
    Messages:
    561
    Likes Received:
    500
    Location:
    Cape Town
    Oh yes I would only get them for the 1.2m / 250L tank. I get quite horrified when websites recommend mollies for 10g tanks, and they grow far bigger even than platties!

    Interesting to know you wouldn't necessarily get them again if you had a do over. Always helps perspective hearing experience like that.
    I just love their colouring and how they stand out against the plants. I think that's what draws me to them in all your photos.
    But I'm so done with high bioload fish. I keep looking at my goldfish tank and half wondering if I should go Malawi rather than planted nano-type (meaning small fish, even though it's a big tank). But then I think about aggression and how you have to overstock which means high bioload and all that and the need for frequent water changes is one of the biggest reasons I'm so desperate to get the goldies out into a pond. So don't want to move them out just to refill the tank with the same problem, as much as I totally love the look of a Malawi tank.
     
    Whoknows and A new day like this.
  5. Shabir

    Shabir

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2015
    Messages:
    928
    Likes Received:
    871
    Location:
    United Arab Emirates
    @HugBug the thing is with malawis, you can keep a species only and dont need to overstock. And in my overstocked tank its only weekly water changes and thats 50%. Willing to advise you should you really wannna weigh your options first.
     
    Whoknows, HugBug and A new day like this.
  6. HugBug

    HugBug

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2020
    Messages:
    561
    Likes Received:
    500
    Location:
    Cape Town
    Thanks @Shabir. I think my whole mindset is so geared towards the planted community its probably better I just go for that at the moment.
    I might in future look at a Malawi setup though, but I feel like I have a lot to learn first before going that route.
     
  7. Shabir

    Shabir

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2015
    Messages:
    928
    Likes Received:
    871
    Location:
    United Arab Emirates
    It's really not that hard considering only you water needs to be stable. You don't need lighting like you would for plants. Just rockwork and good filtration and that's basically it
     
    HugBug likes this.
  8. OP
    A new day

    A new day Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2019
    Messages:
    5,597
    Likes Received:
    4,417
    Location:
    Cape Town
    So I had a bit of a nasty surprise on Saturday. Something was seriously off with the female ram. So I frantically sent off video clips to @Cale24 while testing the water.

    Nitrates were 50!!! So did a 50% wc and added floating plants & pothos. Another 25% the next day. She’s still alive but still weak and not eating. The male is fine.

    Tested all my tanks and in the others nitrates are mostly zero to a max of 10. Thinking I might have overdone the osmocote root tabs (pure NPK)??

    We’ve been away quite a lot in the past month so haven’t had my finger on the pulse much perhaps. Don’t think our mate could’ve over fed as I measured out daily rations.
     
    Whoknows likes this.
  9. Cale24

    Cale24

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2018
    Messages:
    567
    Likes Received:
    507
    Location:
    Cape Town
    Shame I hope she comes right, hopefully the reduced nitrates will allow it. Perhaps a fish died without your knowing, if not the root tabs?
    Very surprising for nitrates to reach 50ppm in such a heavily planted and stable tank.
     
    A new day likes this.
  10. OP
    A new day

    A new day Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2019
    Messages:
    5,597
    Likes Received:
    4,417
    Location:
    Cape Town
    Thanks again for your help!
    I suppose it is possible for a platy or guppy to have died while we were away and without me noticing there’s one less. The other fish are all accounted for.
     
    Shabir and Cale24 like this.
  11. HugBug

    HugBug

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2020
    Messages:
    561
    Likes Received:
    500
    Location:
    Cape Town
    Yikes!
    Hopefully the water changes help.
     
    A new day likes this.
  12. Whoknows

    Whoknows Comp Coordinator

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2018
    Messages:
    2,258
    Likes Received:
    1,585
    Location:
    JHB South
    Remind me never to get rams. My nitrates would kill them :(
     
    Shabir and A new day like this.
  13. OP
    A new day

    A new day Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2019
    Messages:
    5,597
    Likes Received:
    4,417
    Location:
    Cape Town
    Something’s definitely off here. On Saturday after the 50% wc the nitrates came down from 50 to 25 as expected. I didn’t test again yesterday (Sunday) after the 25% wc but expected it to be just below 20 probably (25 x 0,75 = 18). When I tested right now it was on the dark side of 25 again. Sera liquid.
     
  14. Whoknows

    Whoknows Comp Coordinator

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2018
    Messages:
    2,258
    Likes Received:
    1,585
    Location:
    JHB South
    Remember that 2nd water change won't give a 25% change becasue of dilution from the previous 50% you'll be removing some of that water again. 25 could be close IMO
     
    A new day likes this.
  15. Shabir

    Shabir

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2015
    Messages:
    928
    Likes Received:
    871
    Location:
    United Arab Emirates
    I agree with this. I think 2 X 25% after would have been what you were looking for
     
    A new day likes this.
  16. OP
    A new day

    A new day Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2019
    Messages:
    5,597
    Likes Received:
    4,417
    Location:
    Cape Town
    Ok I’ll try another 50% tomorrow if the chaos allows but will push for it!
     
  17. Shabir

    Shabir

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2015
    Messages:
    928
    Likes Received:
    871
    Location:
    United Arab Emirates
    I also read that some parts of Cape towns water was affected by the fire last week. Maybe something in the water contributed to this?

    I would first test the tap water and take it from there
     
    A new day likes this.
  18. OP
    A new day

    A new day Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2019
    Messages:
    5,597
    Likes Received:
    4,417
    Location:
    Cape Town
    After chatting to @Cale24 and before I did the wc I tested tap water (only ammonia and nitrates) was normal luckily
     
  19. Shabir

    Shabir

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2015
    Messages:
    928
    Likes Received:
    871
    Location:
    United Arab Emirates
    Okay then it's definitely in your tank. This is why I love pleccos, they usually bring out any dead or rotting fish from crevices
     
    A new day likes this.
  20. OP
    A new day

    A new day Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2019
    Messages:
    5,597
    Likes Received:
    4,417
    Location:
    Cape Town
    I’m still leaning towards excess root tabs but that’s not good news for me as it will be a 3 month journey of frikkin water changes. Probably 1 month in 2 to go. Hope it’s not
     
  21. Shabir

    Shabir

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2015
    Messages:
    928
    Likes Received:
    871
    Location:
    United Arab Emirates
    I must know not to over dose when I get mine. So far I've not thought of using them
     
    A new day likes this.

Recent Posts

Loading...
Similar Threads - Day's 180l jungle Forum Date
A New Day's 65l Beginner Discussions Jun 13, 2019
Our support IN STORE for FRIDAY'S MARCHES Pet Stop Apr 6, 2017
Today's stocklist Pet Stop Sep 15, 2015
Nealos' 180l Tank Planted Tanks Jan 11, 2021
Ich in the 180L Diseases Nov 1, 2019
revamp 180l aquarium Full tank shots Nov 17, 2014

Share This Page