Ich in the 180L

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  1. A new day

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    Hi everyone

    Oi oi oi...last weekend I added rummy noses to my 180L planted tank without quarantining :oops:
    Two of the 10 were already floating in the bag by the time I got home (20 mins drive). Another 2 didn’t look good even during the drip acclimatisation and I kept them aside (they died shortly after). The 6 released into the tank looked fine initially but towards the evening/ next day i saw some white spots on them that I hoped was ‘stress ich’ but started dosing the tank with Microbe-lift Herbtana. 3 more rummies died over the next day or two.

    The remaining rummies look fine and they hardly have spots left but this morning I noticed some on the other tank inhabitants. Just a few small spots but still.

    PH 6,5 (normal for this tank), Ammonia and NO2 0, NO3 around 15.
    No other losses in the last 2 months.

    Other inhabitants: otos, sterbai cories, khuli loach, platys, diamond tetra, danios, SAE, shrimp and snails.

    Today I bought (but haven’t yet used) Quick Ich-X. I also have Paraguard at hand (haven’t used it).

    I have been keeping an eye on similar threads, and it seems as if the salt (normal table salt) and heat treatment comes recommended as a first line of defense by @MariaS ? Would it be safe for my other inhabitants, and what temp and salt dosage do you recommend?
     
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    Get yourself some of this, worked quite well for me (my fish were covered) and is fairly low impact. Just be warned, it WILL stain hands and clothes1572623373517584888464.jpg
     
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    Paraguard will do the job.
    Only use one med at the time abd skip herbal stuff.
    No Cory no glory
     
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    Thanks so much guys. Really appreciate it.
    It seems as if opinions are so divided on this matter, makes it really difficult to decide how to proceed.
     
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    Seachem Paraguard
     
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    I would also start with a 50% water change before dosing to remove some of the No3
     
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    get some Seachem stability also if money isn't a problem:(
     
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    It’s been tough to decide how to proceed but after also chatting to Hawk I’ve gone the Paraguard route. Especially after noticing what may be early signs of fin rot in some if the diamond tetra.
    Agh I hate diseases. QT QT QT !!!!!
     
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    @A new day
    Sorry been in hospital and haven't been online as much as usual
    Sorry to hear
    Paraguard is good as well
    Carry on with the Paraguard and remember to do waterchanges if possible a gravel vac helps pick up whatever falls on the substrate
    If you see it's not working you can use salt
    Up temp to 30 and add salt at 1 tablespoon per 5 gallons
    Remember to increase oxygen maybe add a airstone if not enough in the tank
    Good luck
     
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    Remember disinfect your hands and any equipment you use on all the tanks to stop it spreading to your other tanks
     
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    Thanks @MariaS hope you’re ok???

    I’ll do Paraguard for the full 2 weeks as per the instructions. Just to double check - should I keep water temp as is while I’m trying the Paraguard?

    PS I’m also adding Seachem Garlicguard for good luck. And Stability just in case. @mattie I’m also a big Seachem fan :thumbup:

    Thanks again everyone.
     
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    Oops my hands :confused: I’m busy rescaping the 44L as we speak :eek:
     
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    Rather be safe than sorry
    I usually use Detol or a bit of jik and them rinse well
     
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    Salt tends to hammer plants, so with a heavily planted tank I'd just do Paraguard ordinarily. BUT, if you have Ich-X, personally, I'd just do a water change and then dose as prescribed.
    Paraguard is great - my favourite (gentle) medication, period, but it depletes very quickly on large tanks.
    My recommendation of Ich-X comes from Cory waxing lyrical about it, many times, on his channel.
     
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    Thanks @Cale24 ! Yes I’ve also seen Cory strongly recommended it.
     
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    Paraguard will work
     
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    How you get them all healthy soon!! Sick fish are the worst!:(
     
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    Agree with @MariaS approach. Since you have the paraguard already. And salt if all else fails. Salt has always been my first goto on the big guys as dosing a large 400L plus tank with any store bought meds could get hellish expensive.

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    I just found one of my ottos dead :(
     

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