My 1000 Litre Frontosa tank journey

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    Thanks :D

    Thanks, nice to be back as well. I'm always reading what's happening here on the side but rarely make time to post stuff. Work is keeping me quite busy and on the side I'm just trying to chill when I have the time and spend time with my wife.

    Other than that still enjoying the hobby and because the tank is so big and I see it each day I'm starting to fall more in love with this all over again :D
     
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    Don't you want to take my 4ft please :lol:
     
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    hahaha, wish I could. I cannot have too many at this moment and the next tank I want to get have very specific dimensions.

    Something like 120cm x 30cm x 70cm. Still thinking about the height and still gotta save up a lot for some of the tags I still want and then this setup as well. Thinking of doing an angel/discus tank on this, but don't see this happening for at least another 7-9 months.

    Want to get a few more Brichardi, possibly some Leleupi, and then some Leptosoma if I can get hold of some that not gonna be too pricey.

    My first ever aquarium I've started was also a 4ft I've purchased from this forum and is what helped me get into the hobby, I really hope you gonna get a sale soon on that.


    This is the space I want to set up the tank on {Still got loads to do to house here, also another reason why trying to go slow for now in a few years might setup n shed with some more tanks :tt2:}
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    That's going to look really cool with those dimensions and a nice group of discus in it. That will make it a Christmas gift from you to you :lol::lol:

    Just wait long enough and the bircardi will make more for you:lol::lol:

    That's awesome so where is that 4ft tank now :lol::lol: haha I've had no enquires on it so don't think it will sell for a while:lol:

    Haha why a shead... Why not a full room. Looks like your house has room:lol:
     
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    That will look great!
     
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    Would not mind if the Brichardi's multiply by themselves for a bit.

    I sold of all my equipment to a few guys close by, but for a big steal. Included Canister filters, Odyssea T5 light setup, and basically all my conditioners and food.

    My smaller setups Also sold off quite quickly had a nice little cube-planted tank that I also miss quite a lot. At that stage, because the room I've kept in all my tanks had no insulation my electricity bill was too hectic. Heaters used to be one for at least 18 hours a day if not more during winter and that bill at end of the month was not much fun.

    It does have a spare room, but we mostly use it for when my nieces and nephews come to visit and family from Eastern Cape.

    When things are more stable I might look at setting up an aquarium for each room, but my wife really wants a small marine aquarium setup so need to look into that at some point as well.

    Think time of the month might also be what's causing a delay in sales and this Covid stuff impacted a few people quite a lot.

    The Only reason for a shed is I always wanted to set up something outside where I could do some breeding or grow out tank setups, without the fear of all the moisture impacting the ceilings, etc. but still insure if I'm going this route its something in the back of mind which still thinking about. Might scrap the idea and do a pond setup not sure yet.
     
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    Thanks, yeah the wife also really interested in this which makes it an even more worthwhile project. Actually can't wait to start on this. :D
     
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    Seems that you have been bitten by the Tang bug!
    Trust me, I know the feeling.

    Brichardii is more of a single species project.
    They form a very interesting colony where the older fry help with looking after the younger ones.
    I had some right at the beginning of my journey and it didn't work out. They went hyper aggressive and took over 3/4 of the tank, forcing the other fish into a small corner. They had to go!

    Leleupi are nice.
    I have a pair. The male can get a bit aggro with similar looking species (He has a go now and then at the Neo mustax) but is otherwise well behaved.

    Leptosoma are really cool fish to keep.
    3 males and 7 females makes a nice group.

    But there are so many other nice and unusual looking species
    The choices are endless
    I could easily stock another 6ft tank with completely different species to the ones I have
     
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    True! Just Wish someone like Jackstone was still available to help get the Tangs I really wanted, even though of a few Altolamprologus calvus.

    Very difficult getting these at a reasonable price now and I believe they will make a great addition to the setup.

    Might even move them over to my other tank project if I find them intimidating my Fronts. I knew a bit about them, but the way you say the older fry help out with the younger ones would be quite interesting to observe.

    all the lfs here when they stock the tangs have only a small amount and no idea if the ones they have are males/females and sell for quite a bit its really sad, I would expect that they would be a bit more cost-effective for South Africans, but they are not.

    The more I look into Tangs, the more I want to keep them all!:D

    Trying to get a nice balance in my 8ft before the fronts get too big as adult-sized Tangs are not affordable for me at all at this stage.

    Still reading allot Tangs before I'm getting any more.
     
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    Seems the wives are interested in marine more haha same here. Got 2m space waiting for a tank hahaha
     
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    I'm sure they will soon enough...

    Lucky guys...

    Dang 18hrs a day. I couldn't imagine how much you're paying then :eek:

    Guess you'll need another spare room built say 6 x 6m :lol::lol:

    Get her an 8ft salt water tank to match your 8ft tang set up :lol::lol:

    That's also true so will try again towards month end and hope that I can get a sale in :thumbup:

    Haha we would like to see the shead more then the pond... Who's with me :)
     
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    Yup, I wish Jack Stone was still around
    Would have been good to get some advice from him

    Tangs are quite specialist here too.
    I am fortunate in that there is a lfs about 20 mins from me that caters for fish keepers wanting more obscure and oddball fish.
    They get there Rifts from a breeder on the Continent. Apparently he drives over every 2nd week and stops at various fish shops in the UK. Am told that this breeder has just about every species and colour form available.
    My "problem" is that I like the more obscure, unusual species, which tend to cost a lot more than the more common species :eek:


    I like frontosa, but made the decision to rather go for the smaller / medium species
    I have both Alto calvus and compressiceps. Small (about 4 cm) and not growing quickly.
     
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    Wow, So I asked Wazeers for an estimate on Leptosoma and they told me just getting hold of 10 is gonna cost them +/- R750 per fish and inclusive of all costs and whatever fees gets added + to make a profit it will roughly cost me about +/- R1500 each. o_O

    So gonna still ask around and see what the rest of the place's responses will be, that's if they respond.

    Might not get these anymore, gonna look for alternatives.

    My lfs that's a bit out will get me whatever I want as well, it's just not always worth in terms of costs.

    Bot the calvus and compressiceps look like they can be quite interesting to keep and will be keeping an eye out for them, but here they tend to cost more than what I've paid for the fronts.
     
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    I would not mix Leps with fronts as they will be predated on. R750.00 a fish is daylight robbery as you can get wild caught for R400in SA. I've had bad experiences with weezers I wouldn't buy from them ever.

    I keep Utinta blue flash in a community with white calvus and occies and they are the perfect dither fish.

    Leps also breed like crazy, I habe had in excess of 100 fry from my initial 8 Leps.

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    I paid about R400 equivalent for my leptosoma.

    Most of the females have held, but so far none of the babies have survived :(
     
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    Yeah that sounds about right. Jack stone would sell f1's at about the same price. Really miss Jack, had had so much knowledge..

    @Reedfish, do you mean they don't spit the fry or the fry are being eaten by tank mates?

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    @Reedfish why don't you pull females and let them spit then add back into your main tank?
     
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    The spit them, but they don’t survive
     
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    There is absolutely no way I could catch them. Too much decor.
     
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    Yeah I know what you mean. They are also so fast and agile.

    When my Leps spit the fry i turn off the lights and they usually all in a corner right at the surface,easy to scoop out.



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