Stand spec and design for 6 foot

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  1. Adam

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    Hi all.
    Can someone kindly assist me with a design for a stand for a 6ft tank.
    Tank is 600mm high so I am thinking that the stand should be +- 500mm high?
    This will allow the tank to be at a relaxed viewing level whilst sitting on the lounge suite (tank will sit alongside the feature wall in my lounge)

    Any/all advice on this will be greatly appreciated.
     
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    The stand on my 5 foot is 80cm high which is great for viewing from a dining room chair. Also enough space for canister filter below.
     
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    Do you want to built a stand from wood or steel? My stand is 700 mm high and tank 600 mm. That gives you a nice height to get to the bottom and back when doing maintenance and planting. Wood is a problem sometimes with water. You'll need a cabinet. A steel manufacturing shop will be able to help you if you go with metal.
     
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    I will go with steel (I deal in in steel)
    Will 50x50x1.6mm Square Tubing be suitable?
     
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    I think 50cm cabinet height will be pretty cramped to work on a sump and a large canister won’t fit. What filtration system do you have in mind? An extra 20-30 cm will give you a lot of flexibility and work space below. If it’s a hassle to reach your filtration one is less likely to work with it...
     
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    Hi and thank you for this as i didn't think about this before.

    I will probably use an existing 3 foot tank as a sump so you guys are correct, 50cm will be too low.
     
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    Hello again.

    Seeking advice on this proposed plan.

    Please advise...

    IMG-20201010-WA0013.jpeg

    Material will be Galvanized 50x50x1.6mm Square Tubing:
    2 Rectangles (top & bottom) joined by 8 uprights (4 front and 4 at back) with 4 cross supports.
    100mm from bottom will be another set of cross supports on which another plywood will sit as a support for the 3 foot sump (i need the 100mm gap under the sump)


    I intend using plywood between polystyrene and stand.

    I am thinking about putting plywood between stand and floor (1830x600mm) as floor is not level and tiling isn't the best.
    Any thoughts here:rolleyes:

    Stand will be +-750-800mm high (100mm space and then 400mm-high sump with a 250-300mm sump work area.
     
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    Looks good. You might be able to get away with 3 supports front and back to give you more access to the sump.

    Also I'd do away with the wood between the tank and stand. I was told this is not a good idea on big tanks as it can swell and crack the tank.
    And you can shim the stand with metal bar between the tiles and stand to make it level then no need for the wood. Another options is adjustable feet like on appliances just bigger.
     
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    I was going with 3 supports but decided to add 1 more just in case (1.6mm wall thickness) as 610mm open access per space is sufficient.

    Oh...:confused:
    This i didn't know.
    What would be the best option?
    If only polystyrene then how thick should I go?

    My design has the uprights welded to rest under the top frame and resting on top of the bottom frame.
    Will this be OK or should the legs run straight to the floor?
     
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    Just silicone some 20mm polystyrene onto the stand after gleviernising/painting it.

    It will be 100 % like that.

    Mine is like that (photo attached) and if I need to level it I'll just add flat bar under the bottom frame.

     
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    Thank you
    Much appreciated
     
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    Anytime. Can't wait to see the tank :thumbup::thumbup:
     
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    The thicker the poly the more movement your tank has so more change of potential pressure points. Wood only use plywood the layers does not allow it to swell like Supa wood or chip board and does not make bumps aka pressure points. With the stand at 1.6mm steel add 45deg bracing. I have done similar and using a magnet moves the tank. Unless you go upwards on the steel towards 3mm it's easier to weld aswell (I'm no expert welder).
     
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    I would suggest look at 38x38 x3mm rather 50mm is great but then keep in mind your tanks drilling space if you drilling the base. On the Stand I like to add an shelf about 150mm below the base it helps store all the goodies once you do cladding.
     
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    Hi Barry and thank you for the advice.
    I have added 45deg bracing in the design
     
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    Hi all.

    My steel fabricator will be picking up the Square Tubing from me tomorrow.

    For some reason I am getting cold feet and worrying about using 50x50 square tubing in 1.6mm wall thickness.
    This is what I have/can afford but am worrying whether it will be strong enough.

    As per previous posts I will add 45 deg bracing where the uprights meet the top frame.

    I need some re-assurance that the 1.6mm 50x50's will work :(

    Or should I back off and re-plan? :confused:

    NB:
    I may have an option of 38x38x3mm but I'm not too sure yet.

    First prize for me will be the 50x50x1.6mm.

    Please help...

    Or am I over-thinking this?
     
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    Progress. Nice can't wait to see once its done.

    This is just my opinion I'm no engineer but someone on the mairne froum said that 50 x 50 x 3 1 meter tall stight vertically can hold 9300Kg.
    So lets say 1.6 can hold 1/3 of that. That's 3100KGs x 8 = 24800 KGs. Less for it being not perfectly vertically (also noted on that same post). So that's about 20 tons. Your tank will full will be about 1 ton.

    I've liked the post here too.
    https://www.marineaquariumsa.com/threads/choosing-the-right-glass.47774/#post-785846
    Starts at post 18
     
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    1.6 will be fine just add the extra support to prevent the swaying. I had an 1m x1m x600 at 1m high with 38x38 x1. 6 my only irretation was the slight sway when I used a magnet on 10mm glass but to this day the stand is holding.
     
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    DSC_0103.JPG Here's my (final:rolleyes:) design.

    The red is the support for the sump @ +-100mm from floor
    Blue is the 45deg braces @ +-150mm from top frame
     
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