What to stock? Help a fella out please

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  1. CJ Fish

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    Evening All

    I am starting up a second tank this weekend, and want to start looking into what I want to keep in it once cycled. The tank is a custom 80 x 35 x 55 which I believe makes it around 150l.

    I would dearly like to put some Discus, but between that and my 180l I will probably have to keep that dream on ice till I have a bigger setup. My 180l has South American sp, so I'm thinking maybe Asian for the new one?

    I have some Dragon rock that I want to use, and will probably put some plants with it - not too sure what I want to do yet. Don't really want to go the Cichlid route. Is the tank too small for Oscars? Or maybe some Betta and Danio and Clouds? It seems a bit "common" though - guess I'm fussy considering my limited space and want to have maximum visual appeal and possibly unusual if I can

    Your thoughts?

    Thanks!
     
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  3. RuanJ

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    Your tank will be great for a couple of angles maby a few convicts even.
    Other options are gouramies, killifish, large school of neons and rainbow fish
     
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    Rainbow fish are popular, but grow to about 10cm.
    You won't be able to keep too many of them.
    Perhaps some Boesemani Rainbow or Iridus Red Rainbow, with a school of about 10 Harlequin Rasbora or similar.

    You could also try an African biotype, with just driftwood, some Anubias, and add an African Bush Fish and Congo Tetras.
     
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    Thanks @Pezulu some really good suggestions there. How many Rainbows can I keep in that size tank? At 10cm I doubt I will go for them if I can't keep enough. Red-line torpedo barbs and Harlequins maybe? What else? I'm a little worried the colours are too close though

    Thanks @RuanJ, I am not a huge fan of Angels, but the other options are pretty much what I had in mind. Neons I have in the SA tank, want to try and keep Asian with Asian and SA with SA. Ideally I need some feature fish too, pity Betta and Gourami limits ones options there
     
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    The tank you are planning is a bit smaller than a standard 3ft tank and will be close on 90 litres.
    You could go the "common" route as you described, although it is only common because those fish are so popular.
    I have never really liked Neons, but a school of about 25 could give a stunning display.
    The same with Harlequin Rasbora, or any of the other colourful fish that may catch your eye at your local LFS.

    In my 4ft I have 8 Rainbows (Boesemani, Katuba and Red Iridus), together with 10 Harlequins, 4 Swordtails, 5 Angels, 4 Ancistrus and 4 Khuli loaches.

    You can overstock a bit, as long as you have good filtration, do regular tank maintenance and keep up with your water changes.
     
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    On the Rainbow side you can rather look at the smaller species, Neon dwarf, Threadfin, Spotted Blue eyes, al of them looks very nice in a school of 15 to 20

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    So, I did the tank today. Thought I want to do a planted tank, but after putting black gravel and dragon rock, I'm starting to think maybe not. Is this tank too small for cichlids? I have attached the one I am considering, please give me an ID? Someone sent it to me once, and I cant recall the name to research it [​IMG]

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    So, just an update - I am still researching, but it is getting more and more difficult. I am considering putting my betta in this tank, together with some golden white clouds, galaxy rasbora (if I can find them) and harlequin rasbora. I am however concerned that the tank might be too deep for the betta - anybody have any experience with a betta 60cm deep?

    I saw some green barbs at a lfs this weekend, and quite like them. What are my options as far as a barb tank is concerned? If I opt for this, I obviously would not keep them with the betta, as I suppose they will cause problems for him? What other barbs/fish can I keep together?
     
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    Have you considered shrimps? Ad a few tall plants at the back and it will be a perfect shrimp tank.
     
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    @BoelderBeestie thanks, but I prefer fish over the selection of shrimp available in Durban. I might look at a combination of the two if possible
     
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    Yes it's possible, I have hundreds with my guppies. I really like the galaxy rasboras, if you can find them like you said.
     
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    Do you think my my tank is too high for a betta @BoelderBeestie? It is 55cm high - I note the flow from the filter is quite strong, and given the dimensions I suspect the tank is not ideal for a fish that prefers shallow water with "calmer" flow
     
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    I don't know, I have never kept them. Will go see if I find anything on them.

    I did some reading and the depth doesn't seem to be a problem, a little current also won't do harm, it shouldn't be a strong current. You can aim your filter inlet towards the glass if you see him struggle. Some plants will also make him feel secure. Honestly I think he'll be fine.

    This is just off google so lets see what the people say that actually keep them.
     
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    Plants!!! Sorry I couldn't resist saying that...

    Have a look at the apistogramma species - really nice looking fish

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    My Tank is around 50 cm deep and my betta does quite well. He does tend to sit around the top of the tank and prefers the quiet/calm spots in the tank but he dives to the bottom regularly.

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    Thanks @Rainstorm, I have quite a few Anubius and swords in the tank now.

    @a3aan99 thanks for the info, it helps
     
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    Try getting some ferns too. Check my cube out - 40cm x 40cm

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    I love my school of 9 rosy barbs, the only thing is they are super aggressive eaters and picked a dead guppy clean in a half hour or so.

    This sounds kinda common, but male fancy guppies are awesome and lots of fun to watch, they also will have nice contrast with the bright colours.
    Various tetras will work, and possibly a pair of kribensis if going for tetras or barbs
     
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    My choices would be:
    Some killifish species such as Fundulopanchax sjoestedti
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    A few dwarf puffers
     
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    Thank you everyone for your comments - the possibilities are endless! I think I am going to let the tank cycle and sleep on it some more......
     
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