DIY Presurized CO2 start

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    That does look good. Guys my diformis is looking bad, what deficiency is this?
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    @Marius Swart - Wow! Vir my lyk dit absoluut stunning! Dis 'n damn nice colour varient wat jy daar aan die gang het!

    Het vir jou die opgespoor in antwoord - hoop dit help en stem jou gemoed rustiger. Dis nogal baie interessant.

    (o ja, kon dit nou nie meer hou om elke keer in jou stunning Colorata vas te kyk nie toe bestel ek maar my eie! Kom ons hoop dit gaan so stunning lyk soos joune! ek gaan my donkieste difformis uithaal en dit daar plant - jy kan natuurlik altyd jou difformis vir my stuur, ek hou regtig van die nuwe kleur! )

    If your leaves turn unexpectedly blue or purple, that means a big time Potassium deficiency, very likely other deficiencies as well, certainly Phosphorous.

    Bronzing or even turning red is an aquatic plants response to an almost overabundance of light.

    Here's the funny thing, though. People like red plants and will do anything to get them to color up but if they are bronzing, it does mean the plant is 99.999% happy but the light is a stressor at this point and turning red is a way to ramp down photosynthesis and protect the organelles of the cell, namely the little chloroplasts themselves and especially the mitochondria from too much damage.

    Even more strangely, they do this to protect themselves from UV radiation. The plant thinks to itself, "My word this is a lot of light! I'd better bronze up to protect my autotrophic organs from UV!" but we're growing them under lights that barely emit any UV so they bronze up, look especially pretty and feed for all their worth making us happy and providing lots of cuttings for you to share with your friends.

    The short answer: Don't change a thing and keep doing what you're doing
     
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    Baie dankie Dinky , a buddy of mine, think he is also on tasa Duran he was helping a lot and we came to a point, its a deadspot, see on the other side the diformis was doing good, the 3 that's still there is growing great, only the ones by the canister pickup is doing this red colouring thing-- sien al wat n problem is beleef ek haha :cry: nee ek lag nie rerig nie. So I do hope it was a dead spot, I did move the powerhead the right back again. Will post a pic or two now
     
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    So I had to cut some dying leaves and stuff, sadly dosing more seachem killed most of my hc , doesn't look like someone can help me or maybe they just don't want to? Anyway some pics of my going backwards tank

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    Hi Marius

    I dont think dosing more seachem will kill your HC...

    There must be some other issues here?

    Lets just quickly recap...

    1. You are now running 4 t5`s ranging from 6500 - 8500 K ?
    2. You are dosing the whole seachem range (Iron, excel, Nitrogen, Phophorus, Trace and potasium)?
    3. Uou are running CO2 a@ about 2 bubbles ps?
    4. You are using a strict dosing scheduele, witch you follow day by bay? Dosing when lights are on?
    5. You are doing @ least 30% water changes a week? and not using a gravel cleaner? Just sucking up the water only and replacing with mature water?
    6. Have you checked your tap waters paramaters, phosphates etc?
    7. You are running your lights on for about 8 hours a day?

    Look @ all this, and if you are not doing some of those things, it can lead to a failure on your high tech plants.
     
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    @Marius Swart

    Jy klink behoorlik moedeloos jong.

    Ek het my HC in 'n tank wat abosuluut niks kry nie. My goggas is in die tank en ek is te bang die ferts maak hulle dood. Gooi van laasweek af 'n bietjie excel in nadat Hennie my gerus gestel het dat hulle sal oorleef.

    My HC groei nie astronomies nie maar hulle lyk baie mooi en groen. Maar dan moet ek ook sê, dis 'n vlak tank met HIGH light. Ek het 2 1150lm globes wat die 3 15 liters dek.

    Ek het nie raad nie jong, sukkel-sukkel maar aan die kant ook. Huidiglik gebruik ek net Excel en Comprehensive en het in die week vir my Trace gekry wat ek nog net een keer toegedien het. Change elke tweede dag water. 20 liter op die 100 liter wat effektief 80 liter hou so dis wat, 25% op 'n shot. Dit laat my nou dink, op wat het jy jou dosing goed uitgewerk, die size van die tank of die hoeveelheid water?

    Het noudie dag ook aan 'n ander ding gesit en dink. Ons het mos nou eers met ander ferts rondgekonkie en daar was allerhande imbalances. Moet 'n mens dan nou nie maar eers jou water laat "skoonkom" voordat 'n mens met 'n reeks ferts begin nie?? Dis miskien iets om te probeer, geen ferts vir 'n week of so nie en begin dan van voor af met die Seachem reeks?

    Ek persoonlik het nou maar net besluit basta met die plante wat my so kopseer gee, solank my visse happy is gaan ek nou nie meer my kop breek nie. Skêr sal dit wees vir watookal my gat krap!

    Sterkte jong!!
     
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    Correct, only 1 tube is 10 000k . I use tap water with dechlorinater . So all that is correct. Funny thing if you look at the HC , the new ones are surviving ,old ones died when I uped the dosage. I still use seachems chart and started dosing sunday every bottle just per bottle spec, will see if there is some improvement today. I check if they can test phosphates
     
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    Just a quick question have you tried EI dosing yet, I use it and all is fine none of my plants are showing any type of deficiency.

    Just my 2 cents worth use it dont use it :nuts:
     
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    Havnt tried it, but someone I know is using this, also not happy, also used seachem's range before. I added another pump if it might be flow I don't know. Can too much dose cause stunted growth and leaves dying or too much flow?
     
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    Tank is shutting down :cry: been a waste of 10-12000 I had spend. Might rescape it in a few days, or go low tech again. Every type of plant has started dying , only the fish survives :nuts: . Might try again, will have to see.
     
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    @Marius Swart - Ai jong, ek is regtig jammer om dit te hoor! :bawling:

    Die enigste raad wat ek het is om vir 'n week of so nie ferts en goed te gee nie en regular water changes te doen sodat jou water kan skoonkom en om dan maar weer van voor af te probeer.

    Op hoeveel liter het jy jou dosing uitgewerk?

    Ek dink nogsteeds dit gaan een stunning tank wees as alles eers begin regloop. :bigsmile:
     
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    Hi, als is uitgehaal, ada skoon gespoel, was n laaaang storie , maar die stof is nou uitsorteer . Gaan maar sien wat gebeur . Was n leker uitstapie tot nou, daar is onsetend baie colorata en glandolosa plante, tiepe van n mos ook uitgekom .
     
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    Ai man. Dit is n ver pad wat jy gestap het en nou alles af te sit, maar ek ken die gevoel... Sit soo baie moeite in en dan kom die ruseltate nie... Hoop die nuwe begin gaan beter wees.
     
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    Jip, nie n final shutdown nie, ek gaan nou als net so ingooi en dai equilibrium add , as hulle vrek dan vrek hulle :unsure: Laaste wat ek nou wil spandeur. Willem ja dit was n lang paadjie, wel die moeite werd, wil net die setup voltooi om te se ek het dit reg gekry
     
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    Hallo!

    Hoe gaan dit met jou aan daai kant?

    Het vanoggend op hierdie thread afgekom en nogal lekker gelees. Miskien is daar iets in wat 'n liggie op iets werp.

    Sterkte met die tank!

    How to Fertilize a Planted Tank (Rev 1.2)
     
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    Baie nice tread dai. Dankie , dink ek doen als reg sover, wel kh en gh low , kh maar 3dkh en gh is 5dgh
     
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    @Marius Swart - Lol! Daar het jy my nou sopas heeltemal verloor. Ek het nie 'n clue wat al daai goed beteken nie!

    Sterkte aan daai kant, sien uit daarna om jou nuwe progress dop te hou.
     
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    Haha, wel op di oomblik pla die tenk nie meer nie, ekt my gh op, nou is my kh af, so spandeer om nog te spandeur. My low tech het dubble die groei op dsd en n ou 20w bulb sonder gravel
     
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    @Marius Swart - Hallo! Hoe gaan dit met jou en die visse? Was so lanklaas op ek is skoon clueless! Laat weet bietjie waar ek kan gaan loer! Sal graag wil sien hoe alles gevorder het! xxx
     
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