O3 - Ozonizer help

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  1. snyper564

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    on a side note always drip your fish, since I started dripping mine I have had no deaths when purchasing new fish. I do 2-3 hours just to be on the safe side
     
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    O3 is dangerous stuff. It definitely can/will kill your nitrifying bacteria, fish and any other lifeform it comes in contact with - even yourself in large quantities!

    Most O3 applications make use of an air drier to remove moisture from the air pumped into the Ozonizer - more effective. The O3 should then be fed to either a protein skimmer or ozone reactor - Google it. Lastly, the excess O3/air mixture should be passed through activated carbon to remove any traces of O3.

    A Protein Skimmer is pretty much useless on freshwater so you would need to look at an ozone reactor which is possible to DIY.

    Since you have the unit now anyway, do some research - it is possible to install and use the ozonizer safely - just do the research and remember that the safety factor is paramount.

    Good luck.
     
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    @DarylA

    I dont have a skimmer, as you said it may be for marine.
    I basically now raped the air stone where the O3 comes out, with the matrix carbon (all air passes the carbon)
    as its twisted around the pipe and airstone,
    is that safer?
     
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    @BBQ I dont have a clear understanding of how you currently have it set up. If it is coming into contact with your filter media at all then it is definitely killing it off the nitrifying bacteria and if it is passing through to the rest of your tank then it is also causing problems/deaths there. My advice to you at this stage is to turn the ozonizer off completely for the mean time.

    Google DIY Ozone Reactor, you will find a good number of safe DIY O3 applications.
     
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    what shop talked you into O3 instead of purigen ?
     
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    I am very interested in the topic of Ozone myself. What I do not understand, is how Purigen and Ozone ends up in the same sentence, as if it do the same job. Ozone is a sanitizer whereas Purigen removes organics from water. That is a huge difference. Ozone does not remove anything from your water, it kills stuff. Purigen kills nothing, it collects stuff. So maybe one can use Purigen to collect the stuff the Ozone killed? hehe

    One big application of Ozone, is in swimming pools. You stop using chlorine and switch to Ozone. Ozone kills all the nasties and algae the HTH used to kill. The pool filter then removes all the impurities and you have a sparkling pool. This setup is somewhere in the R20 000 to install, hence you do not see it very often.

    Then Ozone is also used in drinking water. Oase is using it and makes a big marketing thing of it. "Drink oxygenated water!" While there is apparently a health benefit to this, they do not tell you that all Ozone has evaporated within 10 minutes from aerating the water with it. So you have no chance of getting this benefit from their water. Yet people flock to their outlets to get O3 water!

    There is a unit on the market with which you aerate your drinking water by the glassful just before you drink it. I wonder if this is not what BBQ has bought. But reading all the comments above, on how poisonous and dangerous Ozone is, I would be too scared to drink the stuff. So, someone is lying to us...

    The answer therefore is in the dosage. Too much of anything is bad for you. BBQ, since you are now in the hot seat, go for it bru. Research and come educate us!

    @DarylA, can you elaborate on your setup? What is your units capacity in delivering Ozone, are you drying the air you feed it, how much do you put in your water at what rate? Do you do it in your tank or outside as a water prep only? And most importantly, why are you doing it? What is the goal? I have a 5000lt drum with RO water that I use for drinking/household/water changes. I would like to sanitize this with Ozone. Any tips on how to do it?
     
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    Neat looking unit. Have you contacted Hailea for recommended usage and dosage in fresh water setups?
     
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    Thanks Daryl. Will read when I get some time. In the meantime, what do you mean by Ozone reactor, as if it is something different from the unit you buy?
     
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    @TomK The unit BBQ bought is the ozonizer which generates the O3. The Ozone Reactor is the apparatus used to utilise the O3 safely. You could think of it in terms of an injected C02 system where the pressurised cylinder is the source of C02 and the diffuser is the effective means of getting the C02 into the aquarium.
     
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    Simple. op said in his first post that he wanted to go get purigen or an ozone generator but ended up buying the ozone generator.... as far as i can see no one said that they do the same thing....
     
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    OK, my bad.
     
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    Hmm have not found time to google or come to TASA till now
    What I'll do when I get chance tomorrow is to drive to petstop and ask Shawn
    Or go to exotic pets where it was fisrt mentioned to me by Steven
    I'll check with both these managers and see what's the safest way for the meantime.
    Cos goggle not providing me much on the fresh water side when I looked yesterday
     

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