Petition for legalization of fresh water shrimp.

They were never on, to start off with

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Oh, yeah, true... actually, is there any news on the shrimp situation? Why would they be added to the blacklist anyways?

 

Is this still an active issue? I baught red cherry shrimp recently, so I can't imagine so?

 

O boy here we go again.

 

@Stephan Liebenberg No imports, that's all.

 

On which blacklist do they appear?

On a different note, how would you categorise someone as a noob?
Someone with less than 10 posts, less than 100, less than 500, less than 1000?
Would it be someone that has only recently joined this forum, even they may have more hands-on experience than many of the members that have been here for much longer, or would it be someone that has almost no experience with keeping fish, irrespective of the time they have spent on this forum?
We need to be careful what we call people.

 

As time goes by I feel more and more like a noob .... my archiving works fine - retrieval is a 100% google dependent.

As for the color of the list maybe in 2018 we will get a verdict.

Later Ferdie

 

Same here Ferdie, the more you learn you realise how more there is to learn, forgetting is also starting to show it's ugly head.

 

How much trouble can a pet shop get into for selling freshwater shrimp?

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Depends how cheap they are ..

 

Is R20 each cheap enough?

 

I can tell you a story about cherry shrimp. When I moved house in winter a few years back I had a 300 l tank that i left about 10L of water in. I caught most of the shrimp out but some were still in the tank. This tank stayed at my in-laws place over winter. Frankly i forgot about it. Anyway summer came and i got this idea to set it up. When I went to fetch it imagine my surprise when there were not only shrimp in the tank, but they had bred and there were many small ones around. This after 4 months of no heater and no feeding, with hardly any water. That is why in my opinion cherry shrimp should be on the BL. The shrimp that need warmer water are fine IMO. But I dont set the BL so my opinion probably counts for very little.

 

I am not 100% on what is and what is not legal to sell, first stop is http://invasives.org.za/ and then other source if still in doubt. I have been told this is more for the stuff that is already here not the stuff that is not supposed to enter in the first place.

Later Ferdie

 

Has anyone put any cherry shrimp in a Pond where they survived?

 

Shrimp would survive, but what impact would they cause? Crayfish are crazy destructive, while shrimp are basically at the bottom of the food chain. And I have seen many more shops selling crays than shrimp.

 

That's interesting, I have spoken to a few people that tried "tubbing" with them but they died during winter?

 

You need to think on a broader level than this. Animals do more than eat, or eat each other. Exotic shrimp could compete with local populations for resources (food and territory), interbreed and weaken or dilute the gene pool, introduce diseases that local shrimp have no resistance against, and alter ecosystem dynamics.

That being said, they're not at the very bottom of the food chain. Caridean shrimps can eat the eggs of fish and invertebrates, which in sufficient numbers can drastically affect the prospects for future generations.

 

@SalmonAfrica do we get "local" freshwater shrimp in Africa and specifically South Africa?

 

Yup, last I checked there were a great many species across Africa, but for the most part I've only really looked into the SA species. A book was released last year (A Guide to, and Checklist for, the Decapoda of Namibia, South Africa and Mozambique), that puts this at about 9 species of Caridina in the greater region, although many of these are particularly widespread and no doubt may represent undescribed species. There are other FW shrimp too - Atyoidea, Macrobrachium, and some Palaemon come to mind - but I'm not too familiar with these groups.

Many times, if you walk into a pet shop (particularly smaller ones) and see "ghost shrimp", you may find those are Caridina nilotica, a local and very widespread species. A very "normal" looking shrimp, but hardy. Below is a specimen from some recent fieldwork, but I know many South Africans keep them, as a free pet as well as a live food source for bigger fish.



I've also caught "Caridina typus" in a local river, but I have some doubts that it's the same species that's also found right across both Africa and Asia.

 

Looks like the type I have, are the others avaliable in the market?