Rule amendment

Was breeding clownfish illegal? Which clown was it? (Just intrested because I want a marine tank sometime 8))

Does this mean that members that breed fish without a permit are criminals?

"Maybe it is over the top but that was the point i was trying to make.
Ok lets take another example, lets open a forum section on how to evade speed traps and radar speed cameras....
its still illegal but its not harming anyone, mearly sticking it to the man....
or lets talk about how to smoking weed is good for cancer patiences....
also illegal but its effect are good for people undergoing kimo
The point I'm making is everything has its place and an open forum such as TASA, is not the placed for blacklisted items."
I think we are missing the point completely.

We should write to a fish magazine and ask them to publish a list of the BL species. That would help with the main problem, education.

 

Oww, my toes! 8)

 

Remember he wasn't breeding them commercially - simply raising each batch of fry as they spawned. He never sold or bartered any of the fish he bred.

 

Then what was the problem? Sorry, just confused.

 

As i said - its a trumped up charge. Remember they are trying to make an example of one guy. The even charged him with the wrong act.

 

All valid points, I see exactly what you saying. I dont think it's a forums responsibility to enforce law but support it, hell yeah. Not allowing the trade in BL species is all the support TASA can offer. The point is, you cant enforce a rule if it's not accross the board. You cant ban someone for a thread on cherry shrimp care and then comment on the next guys thread and say "nice planted tank bud" with a bunch of BL'ed plants in the backround... I have not been a member hear a long time, but I can say that the forum has a limited amount of loyal members. Many have fallen off the bus since I have been here and most have because of the BL.... Any mod want to argue this? To me a forum is about building a community. You cant build one by fighting over stuff like a BL.

Support the blacklist, forbid trading but if someone has a question about a BL species he shouldnt be sent on a 4 week holiday to apsa because the truth is most dont come back after there holiday.

Dont you want to feel like you friends with the guys on the forum? I know I do. A holiday is like telling a friend to leave your house in the middle of the world cup final... If he is sitting naked on your couch, send the dude home but if he tells you how he nearly got pulled over by the metro police going 200km on the N1 are you really going to do that? NO?

Not that any crime is comparable. All Im saying is there is no need to make a mountain out of a mole hill... WE LOSING MEMBERS GUYS!

 

Ofcourse there are other issues as there are in many forums but this thread is about the BL ; ) The BL politics have chased away a large amount of members, thats my point. If everyone stops being so anal about the BL those members would still be here, contributing.

 

May I add, the proof is in the poll.... See above

 

It's not about that. It's about getting nailed everytime you mention anything on BL...

Although it might be intresting discussing a couple of unusual fish on the BL. Whether you have one or not. Another point to take into account is that many plants,inverts and fish are sold by LFS. I dont know about you, but I dont go study the BL everytime I want to buy a fish/plant.

 

If this exercise only brings about the freedom to say the word "shrimp" without the threat of being banned,it will be worth while.
If no one ever posts anything in the new section but have the opportunity to do so if you want,it will be worth while.
The mods will be able to relax and not worry about what BL sp. is being discussed on the open forum,even that is a positive.

 

Thank you, exactly my point. +1

 

That's not the reason. When a LPS sells a fish to a person not aware of the BL and joins here, they are still going to want to ask about it. Why kill the fish if it will stay in the guys tank. It would be a waste of money. If that makes sense.

 

Dude, dont just make assumptions. If someone asks where can I get one then the rules can take there course, they read the disclaimer.

Just to be clear, I have not broken the law... I dont own anything on the blacklist. You can research a fish till you blue in the face, without actually opening the BL you wont know if it's on there...

Relax bud, you seem to be taking this personal. No need to get out of hand.

Again, you still missing the point here. It's not about keeping a BL plant or fish although 17 people in the pole did say they own BL fish/plants.

It's about discussing stuff thats on the BL. We are treated like children saying the "f" word on here when we mention anything abour the BL. Whether you think it's pointless to discuss something you dont own is irellevent. 28 other people do.

Like you said, you dont post here much. So why are you feeling so defensive? Do you go hassle apsa when people discuss a BL species?