The frustrating black listed Shrimp topic!

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    @DewaldC how can you ask where, if you posted the same link as I did, and in the link it states no trading, no releasing?
     
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    Why is there no mention of shrimp or budgies on the list.:idea:
     
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    Invasive species?

    Budgies dont x breed with hadidas? HTH
     
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    Could you please show me, where they make any mention about shrimp?.:smile1:

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    +1.My point exactly.
     
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    As with everything else in this world please read the disclaimer.

    Website: The information contained in this website is provided by Invasive Species South Africa and is for general information only. While we strive to ensure the accuracy of content, we make no representations or warranties of any kind, about the accuracy, reliability, suitability or completeness of information on this website. Any reliance you place on information contained within this website is strictly at your own risk. Every effort is made to ensure consistent running of the website, however, Invasive Species South Africa takes no responsibility for, and will not be liable for, the website being unavailable due to technical problems beyond our control.

    Now, as much as everyone else, we would all like to hear that they are leagal...and yes no where on the list they mention shrimp. But the disclaimer says clearly that it is not always accurate.

    If they are not on the BL, then why is everyone going on about them coming into SA?

    Lets bring them in and lets sell and trade?
     
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    There is a difference between importing and keeping shrimp in south africa.
    e.g.) we are allowed to keep hair grass in SA,but we are not allowed to import it into SA.

    I choose to believe a government website over stupid people on a fish forums.:wink:
     
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    Meaning?
     
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    For years there were people on TASA saying it's illegal to keep hair grass in SA.
    Guess what ,they were lying.:notrust:
    I would love to know,who started the rumor that shrimp are blacklisted on TASA?.:idea:
     
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    Maybe it is a rumour...maybe its not true, and according to the list shrimp is not BL.

    I have send them an email, maybe they would be so kind to clear it up, once and for all.
     
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    With that disclaimer as a argument, I can argue that Guppies are on the BL too :bigsmile: AFAIK, pretty much anything can, and cannot be on the BL. So the information on their web site basically means squat. I know of a few LPSs that started (few months ago), keeping and selling large amounts of Red Cherries. I also have a fair amount of them in my tank and they do absolute wonders. Untill someone provides definitive proof that they are in fact on BL, I don't see the problem at all...
     
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    Ja, i didnt start this thread to create arguments or point fingers and try to prove people wrong or right, the purpose was just to get an answer, and after this uhm discussion, its defentitely clear that know one knows if they are allowed to come into SA or not.

    Maybe someone @ customs is just trying to make more money, by excepting bribes for bringing them in? Who knows....?

    Maybe we will never know :suspicious:
     
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    So as i am typing this, I decided to phone the South African department for agriculture, this specific department takes care of fresh water fish etc. I have now spoken to 6 different people, and they asked me to phone cape town, CT then asked me to phone Pretoria, who then asked me to phone CT, now I`m back @ Pretoria holding.....its a dam joke!

    This proofs that no one knows, not even the Department of Agriculture??????????????????????????? :dontknow:
     
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    Finally got to the right person respobsible for narine and some freshwater shrimp. Had a cobversation with her, she asked me to mail her the species name, and she will let me know whats leagel and whats not. Will post here when she replies.
     
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    Update

    I have had a mail from the
    Deputy Director: Aquaculture Authorisations
    Directorate: Sustainable Aquaculture Management
    Department of Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries

    I have spoken to her over the phone as well, and I have forwarded the many unanswered questions that we have to her, she said she will be off today, so hopefully I get an answer soon.
    Will post her answers here, once received.

    Holding thumbs for some good feed back.

     
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    @HennieRoux - Good Luck in your venture.

    I never got an answer,just a copy of the new signed by the Minister Blacklist.
    I can mail you the copy.

    Asanda Njobeni
    Deputy Director: Marine Aquaculture Environmental Authorisations
    Tel: (021) 402 3409
    Fax:(021) 402 3420
    Email: asandan@nda.agric.za
     
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