Warning to Fishkeepers - Giant Fish for Sale

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    @Katfish - there are quite a few alternatives, each differing in suitability, but I can assure you that there are algae eaters for almost every kind of setup. Bristlenose, also known as Ancistrus, typically never get bigger than 15cm, depending on the species. Also make sure the one you buy actually eats algae. There are also Ottos (Otocinclus) which don't exceed 5cm, but these are more suited to smaller tanks with smaller tankmates, and they do best in smaller groups. There are non-catfish varieties as well, like the flying fox, but you need to be careful when you're out purchasing these, as there are many similar looking fish which don't actually do any algae eating.
     
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    The bristlenose is an awesome little cleaner. Mine I bought probably at about 7-8cm and he is not much bigger now, probably about 6-8 months later if not longer. He shares cleaning duties in my 60cm tropical, planted tank with two Otto's and 1 cory. Since he's been around I rarely clean the glass and the BBA which seems to have a symbiotic relationship wiht my anubias, is also more under control. Only critisism is that the bristlenose is very shy and nocternal, so I rarely actually see him.
     
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    If he'll do well in cold water, we can talk. I saw someone else mentioned here they kept a pleco in their pond? Really? Been thinking about this for ages. I have a small pond outside with some commets and one Koi in it. Would a pleco survive in there? Not survivie actually, be happy?
     
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    Plecos can survive in cooler water, as is the case in ponds. However, these conditions are really ideal. While the pond will provide both large amounts of space and plentiful algal growth, the temperatures can drop below that which the pleco is tolerant of. While plecs can live in ponds over long term, I in no way endorse this, unless you're from an area where the temperatures remain temperate or subtropical, at least never dropping below 15 C.

    In reality, these are tropical fish which should always be kept in water above 20 C.
     
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    And if I did the opposite and heated the pond to accomodate the pleco, I'm guessing the Koi/karp and gold fish will not be too happy...?

    PS - Sorry for the thread subject hi-jack :)
     
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    It's not hijacking at all! :) That's the point of this thread: to make fishkeepers aware of the larger species, the problems associated with their care and then even smaller alternatives to the common, giant species.

    You're right Neville - the koi/goldfish won't really appreciate the higher temps, much like the pleco won't really appreciate the lower temps. Heating ponds also often tend to end up costly, which isn't worth the effort unless you're planning to keep a host of larger tropical species in your pond.
     
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    agree, my first fish sold to me as a "Cleaner" turned out to be a red tail cat fish - apart from not being a community fish, they didn't warn me about how big it was.
    We currently have 2 sun cats - they were about 4cm in size when we first got them, currently about 20 - 25cm big.
    Same thing with tin foil barbs.
     
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    Yup, the things they don't tell the poor customers!
    The worst thing I saw for sale was some baby reef shark, not to mention some other marine fish...

    Good job dude!:beer:
     
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    I had a gold fish that was the size of my one hand, so i know the feeling... almost ate me out the house.
     
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    Wow, let's not even begin on marine fish that should never leave the ocean! :amazed: Far too many...
     
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    Well, I suppose that it's just as well that we do fresh water...:smile1:
     
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    Never new they sell carp too.
     
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    am i the only one that wants to turn the spare room into a huge fish tank.
     
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    Hey............ what a COOL ideal!!!!! Wonder what Hubby would think! Just imagine what it would look like.......!!! Feeding the fish would take on a whole new meaning.... LOL!!! :)
     
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    Very true............. also very sad.............
     
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    @Good_Times yes old but good link ... always wanted to start a tank like that but then just start with 3 guppies ... see how long it would take to get a good school going, btw international sites don't care about our BL's hehehe
     
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    Hehe I know :wink:
     
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    Good stuff there, most abused fish is the pleco or goldfish in my opinion!
     
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    Those are some beautiful fish! cant believe how big they are!
     

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